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Re: Let's fix my computer (and maybe have a bit of fun doing so)
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May 06, 2012, 04:38:31 PM »
This PC is determined to try you, that's for sure.
Could you do a screen dump of the services running, perhaps and ditto what starts up?
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May 06, 2012, 07:08:19 PM »
Playing Vedeo's on You Tube is probably one of the most stressfull things you could get that computer to do. It loads up the Internet Connection, the Video card and the mainboard Ram & CPU. If there is a problem with the Power Supply or the Video card this is when it will become evident.
My money is still on either the Power Supply, the Video card (Not the Drivers as you have now replaced those with he latest version) but most likely it is one or more bulging Capacitors on the Mainboard.
Have you been able to get a "blue screen of death" screen out of it yet, see instructions in my earlier post.
You could also try:
Check that the CPU and Power Supply fans are clean and spinning at the correct speed, slow or excessively dirty fans can cause the CPU or power supply to run hot and this can cause intermittent rebooting. Try blowing a desk fan through the system case in the same direction as the normal air flow and see if that makes any difference. You can also use a hair dryer but make sure it is on the COLD setting. You could also check the BIOS settings to see what temp the CPU is running at.
I would also remove the external Hard Drive if for nothing else to remove it from any.
If you go to this Dell website link
http://www.dell.com/support/troubleshooting/us/en/19/ProductSelector
and enter the service code ID as "971LR1S" yiu will be able to view the original specification details of your System when it left the Dell Factory. It may have subsequently been changed. It should be a "Dell Inspiron 530".
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May 06, 2012, 07:30:38 PM »
I am planning on taking the cover off and eyeballing the insides, will check the seating off RAM, Cards etc and give it a clean while I am in there. Will keep an eye out for overweight capacitors as well
It hasn't bluescreened again yet
While the GPU test was being done via Dells site the temp got up to 70 C
If anything the thing seems to crash more often when the temp is colder?
I haven't had much time to do any looking today, have been playing with map scripts/settings so that all you guys can put a copy of it on your sites if you want
(and the PC hasn't crashed at all while doing it)
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May 06, 2012, 10:37:45 PM »
...put it in the oven then.
I would be interested to hear how dusty it was inside, when you get to it. I thought of that a day or so ago, but not all of what you describe could be attributable to dust
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May 06, 2012, 10:54:09 PM »
My thoughts on Blue screens are when either memory is dying or hard drive sectors are starting to fail - used a lot for page files and Virtual memory, and thus address paths (or incorrect data) are lost (or corrupted) and the operation at the time crashes rather indeterminantly.
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May 11, 2012, 08:08:03 PM »
I have the BSOD sitting there now!
No name for the stop error the numbers are
0x0000008e (0xc0000005, 0xbf81c022, 0xb820796c, 0x00000000)
Message does say to check for bios updates, pretty sure I got the latest off Dell last week (but BSOD will go if I check what version)
further message details
win32k.sys - address BF81c022 base at BF800000, date stamp 4f85831a
I can leave the BSOD there for a while in case you need anything else
service tag # for the machine is 971LR1S
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May 11, 2012, 08:52:34 PM »
I'm thinking it may be that RAM issue, system has 3GB in it (2 x 1Gb and 2 x 512MB) but the scan on Dell's site only picked up 2GB, saying 2 slots were empty. It looks like both 512's aren't working.
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May 11, 2012, 10:57:40 PM »
You might be on to it there. ". . . the scan on Dell's site only picked up 2GB, saying 2 slots were empty. It looks like both 512's aren't working."
Read the article at this link
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315335
but disregard the references to Setup as I have also experineced the Stop 0x50 error also mentioned here many times and every time without fail it has been faulty Ram or on some occassions dirty Ram contacts. It may also be a fault in the bus under the ram slot on the Motherboard itself which unfortunately is unfixable so either don't use that slot or replace the mainboard.
Start by removing the 2 sticks of Ram that the Dell Ram check did not recognise, run the machine as you did when it crashed and see what happens. You may need to remove all the Ram & try individually or in combinations and in different slots to isolate which is the faulty module or slot.
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Very important: never remove or insert Ram Modules while the Computer is going ald also, Remember that when handling ram you need to take proper and adequate Static precautions and do not touch the chips on the modules themselves, alway handle them by gripping on the edges at each end.
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You could also try cleaning the contacts on the bottom of the Ram Modules with a clean Cotton Bud and some Isopropol Alchol (Can get from you local friendly chemist if you don't have any but you may be asked for ID as it is used in P manufacture so don't ask for too much). Note: You can keep what is left in the fridge for later use. Also try cleaning out the Ram slots themselves by firstly sucking or blowing out any loose dust surrounding them and then cleaning gently with said same Cotton Bud an Alchol as detailed above. Be gentlle and patient, make sure that you do not leave any "fluff" from the cotton bud on the pins inside the slot but also make sure you apply sufficient pressue to clean the pins.
Hope this helps.
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Re: Let's fix my computer (and maybe have a bit of fun doing so)
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May 18, 2012, 11:20:00 AM »
You never ran memtest? Run memtest on 1 (each ) stick of ram overnight see if there are any errors (or 20-30 passes), whatever you feel like doing. I would start with the 512 sticks first, since you sus them.
If you want to have some fun
And you want to be thorough
Run memtest on the memory modules individually and run them in the good slots (the slots you have the 2GB is in) and run the 2GB (test) in the slots the 512 have been running in.
If the 2GB fail the test where the 512's (slots) had been and the 512's pass the test where the 2GB's had been running.
I will start to think or will be pretty certain the slots the 512's had been running in are bad.
Or test them entirely in another compatible machine..if you have one.
Most likely it is the ram...but I know if it was my comp...I would want to eliminate the slots also. I would hate to buy some ram down the road and go through the headache of discovering/testing and it was the slots that were bad.
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Re: Let's fix my computer (and maybe have a bit of fun doing so)
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May 19, 2012, 11:21:02 AM »
I think I will just retire it, maybe do a rebuild after all it isn't essential to me.
Got a "pagefault in non paged area" error message yesterday.
Have spent the last few days trying to get all the info I neede off it, think I have now finished.
Started off by just copying files onto external drive but even then it would keep crashing - and the external drive is suspect anyway. In the end I just made all files accessible and sucked them off from the wxpc
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Re: Let's fix my computer (and maybe have a bit of fun doing so)
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May 19, 2012, 12:36:37 PM »
Sorry to hear you have had a frustrating week like me. Funny my failed PC is a Dell (Dimension 5200) as well. Anyway, I have had the BSOD 0x0000008e errors before on client PC's ...and it was the memory that was causing the problem. Since you have 2x1GB and 2x512mb is worth doing the elimiation tests that Azzura suggested...you could bypass the mem test and just remove the 2x512mb simms and see how you go. If you still have a problem then remove the 2x1Gb simms and put the 512mb simms in their place. As someone else mentioned take care when removing memory as static can damage the memory.
On the front of my Dell I have 4 diagnostic lights....do you have them and if you do, have you checked to see if they are telling you anything(they only show when there is a problem)? Also have you run Dell Diagnostics - when you boot press F12 when the Dell logo appears and then boot to utility partition.
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