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Title: Problems with Win7/Vista updates
Post by: ato2 on April 19, 2016, 12:37:38 PM

Wolfie33: Having issues with the latest Windows updates causing issues with Win7/Vista. Anyone else experiencing the same?

ato2: What sort of issues?
ato2: I have no trouble with the updates for 7. I have automatic updates turned off and check daily, manually. Also I have (hopefully) set it up so no Windows 10 stuff sneaks in.
ato2: Wolfie- is Vista still supported by Microsoft?

Wolfie33: Issues: Vista machine appears to freeze after a random time with round curser going round & round, will not respond to any input whatsoever. Win7 chomps printer drivers, mangles sound & wifi speed, goes well/poorly at random times. I know MS are dropping support for Win7, so assume Vista is already gone. Have tried turning updates off, still happens.
TonyC:  Vista updates will stop April 2017 and Win7 in January 2020
Title: Re: Problems with Win7/Vista updates
Post by: ato2 on April 19, 2016, 12:44:15 PM
I wonder if you have a third party program or driver which needs updating from the the third party's website?
Title: Re: Problems with Win7/Vista updates
Post by: Wolfie33 on April 19, 2016, 06:16:09 PM
No idea about third party stuff, what's a good example?

I've heard numerous reports from about town of similar problems, mainly PC is running slow.
It doesn't appear to effect XP machines.

Meantime, trolling the interweb for some sort of assistance.

Cheers
Title: Re: Problems with Win7/Vista updates
Post by: TonyC on April 19, 2016, 06:33:53 PM
I've got Vista on an old laptop which I ran continually until recently doing a daily update on my weather page. I'll turn it on when I get back up to Port Robinson and see if it's still behaving. The laptop is a very old Compaq so isn't very speedy .
The update stopping dates come from ZDnet. All MS operating systems have a 10 year life-cycle from now on.  This includes Windows 10 which has full support to 2020 and extended support to 2025 at which time updates will stop. The same life-cycle applies to MSOffice as well.

cheers

TC
Title: Re: Problems with Win7/Vista updates
Post by: TonyC on April 20, 2016, 12:53:31 PM
I've just turned on the old laptop with Vista and it gave me a message that it couldn't update. (The last update that was downloaded was 8/1/2016.
I pressed the manual update and like Wolfie, it's just hung, so probably they've pulled the plug on it. Either ZDnet got the year wrong or MS has thinks it's 2017 already. The month is right.

TC
Title: Re: Problems with Win7/Vista updates
Post by: ato2 on April 20, 2016, 01:38:21 PM
What I have found with my Win7 desktop is that the updates process seems to go on for ever- sometimes an hour or more and the only update is one small item for Windows Defender. Most times I get annoyed and reboot as it is busy churning away.
I do manual updating, for Windows only.
Title: Re: Problems with Win7/Vista updates
Post by: ato2 on April 20, 2016, 01:41:05 PM
It is definitely April 2017 for Vista
 
Title: Re: Problems with Win7/Vista updates
Post by: Wolfie33 on April 20, 2016, 07:08:09 PM
How did I fill my afternoon ?

Reinstalled 2 printer drivers - 30 mins.
Tried to find fresh audio driver - gave up after 15 mins, too many options.
Uninstalled a few Win Updates
Reinstalled 5/6 one at at time testing PC after each for a short time - 2 hours.
P'd/O with that, bulk reinstalled 9 updates - 15 mins.
Stumbled out of office at 5.10pm with crossed eyes, we'll see what happens tomorrow morning.

Haven't been a fan of MS for some years now, this episode just builds hostility.
Title: Re: Problems with Win7/Vista updates
Post by: ato2 on April 20, 2016, 07:22:52 PM
O mi goodness what a pain!
Title: Re: Problems with Win7/Vista updates
Post by: TonyC on April 20, 2016, 09:47:04 PM
I checked back after an hour and it told me there were no important updates.
So I guess it just goes out to lunch for a while. At least you can turn updates off and forget about it which you can't do with Win10.
I would imagine the virus writers have moved on from Vista anyway.
TC
Title: Re: Problems with Win7/Vista updates
Post by: ato2 on April 21, 2016, 08:27:42 AM
Out to lunch covers it well!
Title: Re: Problems with Win7/Vista updates
Post by: TonyC on April 21, 2016, 06:23:03 PM
Just an update,
I left the laptop on, sitting with the update page open and now it tells me there are 29 important updates and 4 optional ones. It's downloading them now.
Guess they are still in business, you just don't need to be in any hurry.
TC
Title: Re: Problems with Win7/Vista updates
Post by: Wolfie33 on April 21, 2016, 07:54:17 PM
My post yesterday was an attempt to find out which update caused the problems with Win7. No real answer.
But generally it behaved itself a bit better today, video/audio still jittery, think I need to reinstall the Wifi driver.

Today I tried a similar tactic with the Vista machine . . . total dead loss.
Tomorrow I think I'll restore back a few weeks, can the updates, cross fingers & light a calming incense stick!

According to     Windows lifecycle fact sheet - Windows Help (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-nz/windows/lifecycle)

Windows Vista    Service Pack 2
End of mainstream support    April 10, 2012
End of extended support    April 11, 2017
Must admit, no idea what the difference is.

Now, where's my ale?
Title: Re: Problems with Win7/Vista updates
Post by: ato2 on April 24, 2016, 09:58:23 AM
Windows lifecycle fact sheet - Windows Help[/url]

Windows Vista    Service Pack 2
End of mainstream support    April 10, 2012
End of extended support    April 11, 2017
Must admit, no idea what the difference is.

Now, where's my ale?
I think the difference is that extended support gives you security updates only
Title: Re: Problems with Win7/Vista updates
Post by: Wolfie33 on April 28, 2016, 07:56:27 PM
Updates:
Win7 machine.
Rolled the wifi driver back to a prior version. Much improved internet performance & audio/video jitters gone!

Vista Machine.
Restored the system back to early April, canned the updates, so far so good. Fingers crossed etc.
Title: Re: Problems with Win7/Vista updates
Post by: ato2 on April 28, 2016, 08:14:18 PM
That's an improvement, for sure,
Title: Re: Problems with Win7/Vista updates
Post by: Wolfie33 on April 28, 2016, 08:47:27 PM
Sure is ato2 . . . I am over it! (many more important things I should be concentrating on)
And I keep hearing more & more moanings from other MS sufferers.
Thanks for your comments
Title: Re: Problems with Win7/Vista updates
Post by: ato2 on April 28, 2016, 09:38:23 PM
Cheers mate!
Title: Re: Problems with Win7/Vista updates
Post by: Weather Display on April 30, 2016, 08:54:35 AM
Vista out of the box has a memory leak
probably is the worst OS from microsoft
windows 10 works on even old pc's
Title: Re: Problems with Win7/Vista updates
Post by: Wolfie33 on April 30, 2016, 08:16:28 PM
Thanks Brian,
I had heard like opinions about Vista, but not about the memory leak thing.
The Vista machine I've been battling has operated spot on for 6/7 years, & then suddenly @#$^*&()^&*(%!!
I'm just not an MS fan, so sticking right where we are for now.
Cheers