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Title: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: JennyLeez on October 19, 2014, 07:11:22 PM
Fire Weather Index Calculator is a fire danger rating system which measures the variable elements which cause day to day changes in fire risk, and interprets the information gained.
Most do not know of its existence so I thought I would post it up here.

What can it do?
Weather Software Supported:
Cumulus, Weather Display, Weatherlink, Weatherview32, Wetterstation (de) and VWS.

Screenshot:
(http://nzpws.net/fwi/images/fwi_calculator.png)
 
Windows Installer will deploy the following files in folder "c:\program files\FWI" ....

**NOTE: On 64bit systems it might be wise to deploy this program in its own folder (eg. C:\FWI ) as there can be security issues with the program being unable to update it's own files if installed in the Program Files (x86) folder!
The setup application will install the following files on your PC...
 
FWI.exe (application file)
fwicalc.chm (Windows HTML Help File )
fwidat.dll (DLL containing data functions)
fwimath.dll (DLL containing math functions) licence.rtf (Licence File)
readme.txt (Readme File)

If you have a previous version database, it should be automatically modified to the newer version without data loss. As a precaution make a backup copy of your FWI folder elsewhere on your PC before installing.

To setup FWI Calculator go to Edit / FWI Setup.

Enter today's or sequential (day after day) weather data in the WEATHER DATA panel and click the "Calculate" button. If you are using a Weather Station download the appropriate Input file and follow the readme.

Setup instructions are under Help off the Menu.

You may also download the Help File, the PDF version of it here:

http://nzpws.net/fwi/help/fwicalc-PDF-Help.zip (http://nzpws.net/fwi/help/fwicalc-PDF-Help.zip)

This Software resides here and may be downloaded:
fwi_calc104.zip (http://www.nzpws.net/fwi/program/fwi_calc104.zip).

If you sign up for an account your Station will be added to the Live Map. The Map has just been upgraded to include 'Peak Weather Values' if the station is sending that data.

Although the Software is no longer fully supported the Readme is fairly extensive plus I am sure members here will help if you wish to post questions below.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: TonyC on October 20, 2014, 08:45:01 AM
Are there many members using this software?
My station is running on an ancient XP desktop with the only other software being camera capture.
Being in farming territory, this could be useful, but I've a certain reluctance in introducing something new to the mix in case it stuffs up what is working pretty reliably.
cheers
TC
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: APNP on October 20, 2014, 09:15:03 AM
Hi Tony, I am the author of this FWI program. XP is the most stable version of Windows (he laments) - don't let Windows convince you to upgrade. The FWICalc program uses little system resources compared to any other software. Just make sure it is only displaying "last 30" (default) records on its front panel then it won't use much memory. There is no "direct" interaction between FWICalc & your weather software; your weather software just needs to create a small text file that FWICalc can read (standard template files for this can be found on the downloads page). Other farmers using this software use it to determine "grassland fire risk" for stubble burns etc and dense shelter belt (macrocarpa/pine/eucalyptus) fire risk.

If it doesn't suit, uninstall it.

And for other users, although I'm not directly supporting this software anymore, I will be cruising past these forums from time to time, and will take heed of any "major" issues that arise. Cheers - Graeme -   
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: JennyLeez on October 20, 2014, 09:21:57 AM
Hi Tony,

Mine are all Win XP also. I have always had the windows updates turned off so nothing has changed for me.
It is relatively light and has sat beside my time and date for many years.

I think it would be of real value for down your way as you state. For me, I watch, I altered and I altered some more. But that's what our hobby is all about.
I also learnt heaps :)

Cheers


Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: TonyC on October 20, 2014, 12:39:13 PM
Thank Graeme.
I'll download it and have a tinker when the weather dictates indoor activities.

cheers
Tony C.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: TonyC on October 25, 2014, 07:08:40 PM
Hi Jenny,

I loaded up the software and started looking at the set-up (without reading the instructions of course!). I assumed it would pickup the information from the clientraw.txt file. It gave an error though did pick up some of the data. I then read the instructions and saw that it needed a custom txt file for WD, so I checked out if WD could generate the required file and found that WD already has a fire index module built into it  (Only been using the proggy for about 5 years to discover that!!). I suspect it does much the same as Graeme's program though probably not as detailed. Would I be right?

cheers
TC
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: iomkiwi on October 25, 2014, 07:36:48 PM
You're right - WD does have a FWI built in (and has had for a looonnng time  ;) )

But the one in WD obviously is using far fewer parameters to obtain the figures to do the calculation, in my experience my WD figures have always tracked a lot lower than official figures.
After having the FWIcalc going for only a few days the FWI is already considerably higher than WD's figure even though the initial figures were taken from WD.

I will be giving my FWIcalc a few more weeks to settle down before putting a page on my site but the figures should be on the FWIcalc page.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: JennyLeez on October 25, 2014, 07:52:53 PM
Weather Station Input Files for FWICalc

Weather Display
http://nzpws.net/fwi/weather_display/wd24_input_values.txt (http://nzpws.net/fwi/weather_display/wd24_input_values.txt)
http://nzpws.net/fwi/weather_display/wd_input_values.txt (http://nzpws.net/fwi/weather_display/wd_input_values.txt)

Weatherlink
http://nzpws.net/fwi/weatherlink/wl_input_values.htx (http://nzpws.net/fwi/weatherlink/wl_input_values.htx)

VWS
http://nzpws.net/fwi/vws/vws24_input_values.txt (http://nzpws.net/fwi/vws/vws24_input_values.txt)
http://nzpws.net/fwi/vws/vws_input_values.txt (http://nzpws.net/fwi/vws/vws_input_values.txt)

Cumulus
http://nzpws.net/fwi/cumulus/cu24_input_values.txt (http://nzpws.net/fwi/cumulus/cu24_input_values.txt)
http://nzpws.net/fwi/cumulus/cu_input_values.txt (http://nzpws.net/fwi/cumulus/cu_input_values.txt)

Weatherview32
http://nzpws.net/fwi/weatherview32/wv_input_values.txt (http://nzpws.net/fwi/weatherview32/wv_input_values.txt)

Wetterstation
http://nzpws.net/fwi/wetterstation/ws24_input_values.txt (http://nzpws.net/fwi/wetterstation/ws24_input_values.txt)


If you want FWICalc to use your Station data, instructions can be found under 'File Functions' under the Help Topics.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: JennyLeez on October 25, 2014, 08:16:05 PM
Tony here is a WD demo.
http://belmont.net.nz/wxfwi.php (http://belmont.net.nz/wxfwi.php)
Courtesy of Mr Belmont :)

For me the difference is FWICalc can do so much more. More options and inputs to ensure you have it correct for your area. Not just your own backyard but a radius out.

Alan not too sure what you have filled in. But Graeme moons ago headed me to set up the Environment part. Scrub land, Grassland, slope, Fuel Load, Forrest and especially the Cure Table which I mucked around for ages with. Also winter months need to go in. Makes a difference.

It may or may not be noted that by default FWICalc updates at mid day and WD at midnight. So when comparing the two different software versions take this into account. Note though, Mr Belmont is uploading his fwigraph.gif image throughout the day

It is also worth setting up graphs. You can make them yourself. These graphs can be used on other pages as well as with Temp or Rain. You have total control as to the output of the graphs colour, size wise.

Tony have a look at what I have done so far. This will give you an idea of the graphs also an idea on what you can do web page wise :)

http://wairoa.net/weather/fwi/fire_index.php (http://wairoa.net/weather/fwi/fire_index.php)

Cheers





Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: iomkiwi on October 25, 2014, 08:45:23 PM
I have done the basic setups for the Environment and am using the Cure Table, but have left the cure table at default values. Not really much point in me setting it up for my backyard as I am in the middle of an irrigated orchard :D

I am pretty sure that WD updates it's FWI figures at midday as is the norm for these figures, at present WD has me at 4.0, FWIcalc has 8.5 and official figures for the closest place to me has 9.3.

I haven't set the graphs up yet, but the data is building up to populate the graphs for when I do my page  :)
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: iomkiwi on October 25, 2014, 08:50:52 PM
@Tony

It looks like you are at the point where I got stuck for a bit too, so here is a quick pic of how I have WD set up to create the file.
You can call the files anything you want, just make sure they are in the webfiles folder, you don't need to actually upload the created file with WD, just get FWIcalc to read it from your webfiles folder.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: JennyLeez on October 25, 2014, 09:12:47 PM
Just to add to this for any Cumulus User.
We are a bit luckier.
FWICalc just reads our realtime.txt even though a single custom Input File is available as above.

Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: hotcop65 on October 25, 2014, 09:49:11 PM
Good Evening All,

With the summer season arriving in a hurry and it looks like it is going t be a dry one here in the Waikato,
Is there some-one be able to assist me in getting the above working.

The last time it loaded was last April.

Cheers
John
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: JennyLeez on October 26, 2014, 09:03:56 AM
Just to clarify for John, it is the fwigraph.gif that is not uploading.
If a kind WD member could help please.

http://tokoroaweather.net/wxfwi.php (http://tokoroaweather.net/wxfwi.php)
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: iomkiwi on October 26, 2014, 09:14:16 AM
John

I assume the graph is working in WD itself?

Make sure the "upload to Web page" box is ticked in View/Fire Weather Index.

And under Control Panel/Internet File Creation  - make sure file 34 is setup to upload
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: TonyC on October 26, 2014, 11:25:12 AM
Only for VWS and Cumulus  :).
I think I've sussed out how to set it up, but I'm not so sure most of the visitors to my site are going to want to look at complicated graphs anyway (not that I have any opinion on the surfing fraternity or foreign tourists 8). The graphic pointer in a prominent position on the page in order to get people thinking about the fire danger looks to be the most useful tool and as long as the WD one is within the right margins it's the easiest to fire up. Finding a novel way of displaying it will be the first challenge and then I'll have a further play with FWI as IOMKIWI has been doing.

Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: hotcop65 on October 27, 2014, 09:39:13 AM
Good Morning Alan,

Thanks for the info,

File 34 was already set-up. Just needed to place tick in "upload" box. All done now, will keep an eye on it for a couple of days

JT
ps: Thank you Jenny
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: TonyC on October 27, 2014, 07:23:09 PM
If anyone is setting up FWI using WD there are a couple of traps.

First set up WD to create the file. I created wxlocal4.html using the tags in the Wd24_input_values.txt to produce wx4.htm (page 2 of Internet File create/upload.)
The tags should be the only content in the html file. This is your input file.
Make sure that your date setup on your computer is short date dd/mm/yy
The %temp% tag doesn't work and affects the rest of the readings. I used %tempnodp% and the parser was happy with that. If it runs only once every 24 hours then %maxtempnodp% would be the one to use. The temp could be up to 1 degree out, but I don't think that's critical.

That's as far as I've got. Waiting now to see what sort of data it gathers.........



Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: hotcop65 on October 28, 2014, 01:08:48 PM
A question? do you have to manually upload the FWI each day. I see that the data updates at mid-day in WD but doesn't upload the file.

John
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: APNP on October 28, 2014, 06:30:35 PM
Tony
====
Interested that WD %temp% tag "not working", the older version I have here parses the temp in OK (I use VWS however so not so savvy with WD), is it parsing it (replacing it with anything) or just passing it through unchanged? Obviously nothing I can do about WD foibles - no big issue with using the "nodp" temp option as a solution. With the short date, you could replace %date% with...  %date-day%/%date-month%/%date-year% if you don't want to change your PC clock setup (NB. In Nth America month would precede day).

John
====
If you are talking about FWICalc's upload feature... in the FWI setup page (Section 3)
Data File Type = Custom Data File
File Location = the outputted file from WD (browse to it)
Data Delimiter = semi-colon or comma (or whatever separates the values)
Parse Time = 12:02 (if WD updates it at midday)
Auto Read = Check this only if WD updates the file every 15 - 60 minutes.
Total Rainfall Used = Check this if yearly total is used (don't check if using 24hr rainfall).
Set Yest. Total rainfall = Yesterday's midday annual rain total (not required if using 24hr rain)
CBI, FMI, Angstrom Use Max. = Check if Auto Read (15 minute updates) is also checked (opt).
Parse Enabled = Check!!!!! (otherwise it won't automatically upload file)
Fudge Enabled = Check.

Click the TEST Button to see it reads & understands your input file.
Process Now will overwrite any same day data in FWI database.

If FWICalc hasn't updated in a long time, you will need to click the "Restart" button on the main page. It will either fill in all the missing dates with "fudge data", or it will put in new startup values - depends if it is 30 days out of date or not. FWICalc requires an unbroken chain of daily weather data so it can calculate the indexes etc.

Hope this helps. Cheers - Graeme -

 
 

 
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: iomkiwi on October 28, 2014, 07:47:00 PM

WD should upload it automatically, what times have you got that file 34 set up to upload?

And WD uploads at 1pm so your previous post may have been a bit early for it to appear on your website.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: iomkiwi on October 28, 2014, 07:56:35 PM
@Graeme

The %temp% tag works fine for me with WD

A note to all using WD, it seems that WD calculates the fwi at 1pm (not sure if this is year round or just during daylight saving) so you will need to change your parse time to 13:02
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: TonyC on October 29, 2014, 09:52:10 AM
In my case, the parser doesn't like the 'C' which is output using the  %temp% tag and throws up an error message and affects the rest of the readings. Using the 'no decimal point' keeps the parser happy. Don't know whether the version I downloaded is different to what others have or using XP as an OS makes any difference. I guess it's something to look out for if the install instructions don't produce the required result.

I set WD to produce the wx4.html file every 15 minutes. It creates it directly to the onsite web server  so I don't need to upload it. I've set FWI to parse every 15 minutes, so the whole thing operates automatically.

cheers
TC
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: iomkiwi on October 29, 2014, 08:55:25 PM
Tony

in the custom web pages setup you might have the box for "include the units" ticked, but don't know if you need it ticked for the rest of your site.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: APNP on October 30, 2014, 11:41:33 AM
Thanks Tony, didn't realise WD might include unit text. FWICalc should already "clean" the 4 input values of any unnecessary alpha characters - not sure what is happening there (have rewritten the cleaner in the BETA version, but only to reduce the code, as it has been working fine - or at least I thought it was) - maybe if you get a chance set up WD again to recreate the issue and attach the outputted Data File here.

Note: I have been working on Build 105 for some time now, implementing many of the ideas that have presented by users in the past year or so. I will put it as a BETA on the website shortly (v10.2.1.105 BETA). It includes an upgraded Fireboard Graphic (more options), Danger Code Thresholds can now be adjusted (for FWI, CBI, Angstrom, GFDI & FFDI), there is an option in Setup to force FWICalc to adjust for Daylight Saving Time (force the data file parse time forward by one hour if daylight saving is active on that computer) - this will keep the FWI data consistent, have changed the BKDI algorithm yet again to try and solve issues associated in low rainfall areas, and lots of minor changes to strengthen the application. Obviously this is a BETA (not final release) so it may contain new bugs!

Windows 7 & 8 have been causing more grief - New installations of FWICalc should not be installed in the "Program Files" folder otherwise files (eg. graphics) it dynamically creates can become hidden or locked on some systems (really only an issue if you are trying to access them using third party software - Explorer, FTP, graphics apps etc; FWICalc will function OK otherwise). It should be installed in a root folder (eg. C:\FWI\). I have changed the msi file now so this will be the default, or it will overwrite previous versions where they reside already. If it is already installed in the Program Files folder leave it there!
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: JennyLeez on November 06, 2014, 12:57:01 AM
Beta version working fine so far on my trusty WinXP.

How are you getting on iomkiwi?

Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: JennyLeez on November 06, 2014, 10:45:48 AM
In answer to questions I have posted the below on another forum. I decided it also might be an idea to post it here. Note: Member uses Cumulus Software.

In brief: Set up Data – Make a web page – Parse web page – upload webpage.

Setup
Go through and set up FWICalc following the Readme – Setting up Data. This can take a couple of days to get right especially the Cure Table. There is a bit of reading there but worth following it down. It took me a week before I was happy with what it was reporting.
It took me another week playing to sort out a web page. So yes it is a bit of work, but worth it.

Under FWI setup, bottom left.
If using Cumulus your Data File Type and Location is your realtime.txt. So select that and set the path. I will add a screenshot down bottom as readme is different.
FWICalc will auto update from there once a day.

Web Page
As far as the web page is concerned. It is up to you to build one.
In the readme, Under Internet Options – File Options the author has added an example which is a good starting point.
So open wxnewpage.php
Rename this to say wxfwicalc.php and save.
Slot the example in between:
<div id="main-copy">

<h1><?php langtrans('Fire Weather Index'); ?></h1>
<p>The following is FWI Data for the ^fwistation^.</p>
<p>Last Updated: ^fwitime^</p>
^fwitable^   
   
</div><!-- end main-copy -->
Save this a second time and call it wxfwicalcT.php as the tags are parsed much the same as the Cumulus tags are in the standard version.

Parse web Page
Now we set up to parse the file.
In readme this is under Internet Options – File Options.
In FWICalculator click on Web Files.
Under Input files put the path to your wxfwicalcT.php something like
C:\cumulus\fwi\wxfwicalcT.php
On the other side under output files:
C:\cumulus\fwi\wxfwicalc.php

Click on Parse Now and that will replace the tags with your data.

Upload web page
Set up the FTP side of things as in the Readme – Internet Options – Dialup / FTP Setup.
Then,
Follow the readme to process this file and upload – Internet Options – FTP File List Select.
In this scenario under FTP File List Select you will have something like:
C:\cumulus\fwi\wxfwicalc.php
And under Server path:
public_html/wxfwicalc.php

To do a manual upload: Under Internet select Start FTP(Send all)
If FTP settings are correct, this will send this page up to your server.
Open it and see what you have.

I have not tested the above in the Saratoga template but I have no doubt it will stick out to the right :)

You can preen that back by unticking some of the columns – FWI Setup – tab Application Settings. On the left – Front page Chart Titles and under Show. Untick what you do not want.
Here is the above without any styling.
http://wairoa.net/weather/fwi/fwi_test.php (http://wairoa.net/weather/fwi/fwi_test.php)

This gives you a brief outline as to how fwicalc works.
It is up to you to build your web page adding the fwi tags for parsing and displaying.
The full list of tags are in the readme. Get creative :)

Create some graphs for uploading. There is 2 full pages in the readme covering this. Then upload. Add links to these in your web page. Here are 2 examples of what can be done. This is a standalone page.
http://wairoa.net/weather/fwi/fire_index.php (http://wairoa.net/weather/fwi/fire_index.php)
This is the same page incorporated into the Saratoga template.
http://wairoaweather.net/wxfwi.php (http://wairoaweather.net/wxfwi.php)

Jenny
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: JennyLeez on November 06, 2014, 10:56:36 AM
Below some point from Graeme:

In NZ users should display the FWI reading on their fireboard.
In OZ it should FFDI.
In USA it should be CBI.

For a "new" install, the BETA would be better, as he has ironed out a few minor bugs and it has better options for Windows 7 & 8.

Note: "Functioning requirement is that the data needs to be updated daily (for FWI, GFDI, FFDI) either automatically or manually. These fire indexes all require data (weather & fire) from the previous day to calculate the current day. Hence that is why FWICalc will stop (or optionally put in "fudge" data while on auto), if it can't calculate anything. It is really designed to be put on a computer that purrs along 24/7."

Graeme also suggests adding:

"IMPORTANT: DO NOT USE THIS INFORMATION FOR MAKING DECISIONS!"

"Especially  in NZ areas where a fire authority also issues fire danger ratings, with a link to the "official" site."
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: iomkiwi on November 06, 2014, 07:36:16 PM

I started with the stable version to get it going, now everything is ticking along nicely I might install the Beta.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: TonyC on November 07, 2014, 08:59:10 AM
I've been meandering down the same path as Iomkiwi and as it was a rainy day yesterday spent a little while checking out how the graphs work. It's quite an interesting little project and as Iomkiwi says, reading the documentation several times over turns on a few light bulbs at the right time.
I've always been under the impression that fire danger ratings stay pretty constant rising and falling slowly over a period. The daily variations are quite an eye opener.

I think I'll give it a few months, checking it against "real world, look out the window" observation, before I try publishing anything.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: JennyLeez on June 08, 2015, 01:57:04 PM
"Fire Weather" fairly boring come the Winter months so I decided to add a couple of tables in using the FWI Calculator tags to fill in time until Summer :)

So for anyone reading though this topic I now have a table for the Year stats and a table for the All Time Stats parsed by FWI Cal daily at mid day and uploaded.
You can create these using the FWI tags found under Help - Internet Options - File Options.

http://wairoa.net/weather/fwi/fire_index.php (http://wairoa.net/weather/fwi/fire_index.php)

What was pleasing to see, the data matches the Cumulus Records :)



Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: APNP on December 11, 2015, 07:28:13 PM
Windows 10 (Free Upgrade) & FWI Calc...

It has been noted that Windows 10 upgrade does not always adapt your clock & date formats to their previous settings after an upgrade. This may affect people who have the date format tags manually set in their FWI Calc upload file that is created by their weather station software. You will need to go into your Windows date/time settings and select the correct short date format (I found you had to dig your way to "additional date/time settings" to set it for NZ, as the generic drop-down list was not set to "English - World" formats; it defaulted to English - USA only).
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: SteveFitz1 on August 02, 2017, 01:26:14 PM
I've been running FWI Calc for several years and it's been running unattended quite nicely. However, I happened recently noticed that the value for KBDI has been coming up '0' since last November. I've not made any changes to the setup within FWI Calc. I did upgrade to a newer release hoping that would help, but nothing changed.

Has anyone experienced anything similar with KBDI. I'm now into my 9th month without it being updated.

Thanks,

Steve
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: JennyLeez on August 02, 2017, 01:58:07 PM
Hi Steve,

The only thing I can think of is a huge amount of rain. Check back and see if you have a high amount of rainfall around the date the zeros began. Like 150mm or more.
FWI would consider that a flood and hence zeros for a while. Then with on going rain FWI would have calculated the soil as moist if not saturated. Hence zeros.

Hopefully someone else may have some ideas also.

Cheers
Jenny
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: SteveFitz1 on August 02, 2017, 02:32:15 PM
Hi Jenny,

Thanks for your response.

The rainfall totals for last November going forward when the zeros began have been only slightly above normal. Interestingly, in 2015, we had over 1.5 times our annual rainfall average and the KBDI hit '0' a few times, but within days always started climbing back up. There was a large rainfall event the day in November 2016 the zeroes started (60mm), but the zeroes have remained since.

Seve
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: JennyLeez on August 07, 2017, 11:16:09 AM
Hi Steve,

Sorry that is the only fix I know of. I will email the FWI guru and ask him if he has any ideas he could post here.

Cheers
Jenny
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: SteveFitz1 on September 21, 2017, 12:56:18 AM
Hi Jenny,

Just checking back. Did you ever get a response from the FWI guru regarding my question?

Thanks,

Steve
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: Wolfie33 on September 22, 2017, 06:17:25 PM
Hi Steve
I'm not sure where things are at currently, in any case, I have sent a short query to the author.

Cheers
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: Wolfie33 on September 27, 2017, 09:20:58 PM
Hi Steve

Reply from the author as follows:
Unfortunately I have now pulled the pin on FWICalc completely, and support was removed well over two years ago.

That said, he has read your query and has been trying to reproduce the issue, and maybe offer a suggestion &/or fix.
But he hasn't been able to reproduce the issue.

Cheers

Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: Wolfie33 on September 27, 2017, 09:39:38 PM
As stated, direct support for FWI Calc is no longer available.

However files can still be downloaded:

INSTALLATION FILE...
    Windows Installation MSI file:    http://www.arthurspass.com/fwicalc/software/fwi_calc_latest.msi (Build 109 is latest v.10.5.2.109)

REPAIR FILES...
    FWICalc EXE file:              http://www.arthurspass.com/fwicalc/software/FWI.exe
    FWICalc Math DLL:           http://www.arthurspass.com/fwicalc/software/fwimath.dll
    FWICalc Data DLL:           http://www.arthurspass.com/fwicalc/software/fwidat.dll
    FWICalc Auto Updater:    http://www.arthurspass.com/fwicalc/software/FWIupdate.exe

HELP FILE...
    FWICalc CHM Help File:    http://www.arthurspass.com/fwicalc/software/fwicalc.chm

If he becomes aware of issues with the software he will work on a fix in his own time & create new builds occasionally.

Cheers
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: southfranklinweat on October 28, 2018, 02:22:38 PM
Hi Jenny and Wolfie33,
I appreciate this is an old thread, though hoping someone has an answer to my question.
I finally got around to creating a complete list of fwi parse tags to upload as a php file to tinker with and found that there is no ^fwigfdi^.
In the last .pdf I have it displays as per below; (note ^fwiffdi^ is assigned to GFDI).

11) ^fwiffdi^ - Last FFDI
12) ^fwiffdi^ - Last GFDI

When I changed it to ^fwigfdi^ it did not return a value, is this a known issue or is there possibly a way I can amend a file somewhere or would it require author change, I assume he will not be making changes now.

Kind Regards,
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: JennyLeez on October 28, 2018, 03:59:57 PM
Hi Tony,

Welcome to the New Zealand Forum :)

I had to drag my thinking cap out for this one and try and remember what I did and why :)

Looking at my coding I am using fwiffdi for both FFDI and GFDI for the current value and of course that brings back the same result.
I can not remember why though so I might drop a line to the author.

The GFDI year and all time record do work for the high value but not the low value.
e.g. Year:
^stayhighgfdi^^stayhighgfdid^

Hopefully the author will have your answer.

Cheers
Jenny
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: southfranklinweat on October 28, 2018, 10:00:03 PM
Hi Jenny,
Thanks for that, it would be greatly appreciated.
Yes all the others work, just not the current.
Though strangely the .xml files contain the current GFDI, though it must be hard coded as I can't find how they are generated.
Kind Regards,
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: Wolfie33 on October 29, 2018, 09:27:34 AM
Hi Tony & Welcome!
Sorry, I'm no help on that. While I did try running it for a short spell last year, I found my old system started to chug slower & slower.

FYI, last time I looked the author was bound for Europe for a good few months of mountain climbing, but he could well be back now.

Cheers
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: APNP on April 05, 2020, 01:21:43 PM
Hi Folks, its been some time (3 years+) , but given the amount of spare time I now have (thanks COVID-19), I have rewritten great swathes of the original FWI CALCULATOR application. It is now up to version 11.2.1.112. It is available at https://www.arthurspass.com/fwicalc/

I think I have ironed out most of the Windows 10 issues, though you might like to install it to "C:\FWI" folder rather than the default "Program Files (x86)". If it is already running on your system, install it to the exact same location so all the data & configuration files are maintained. There should be no issue with using "Add/Remove Programs" to remove a previous version if necessary as all config and data files are not deleted.

If you simply want to overwrite the existing version (not recommended) see the "Corrupted File" section on the website. There are now 5 application files and 2 help files. These should all be copied across. Once the new version is run, there is no turning back.

Any issues let me know via the website email! I am hoping to now keep this project running.  :)
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: southfranklinweat on October 12, 2023, 08:23:41 PM

I typed a long message and the forum deleted it.  :-*
https://beaumaris-weather.com/data/fwi/wxfireffb.php (https://beaumaris-weather.com/data/fwi/wxfireffb.php)

I'll try again on the weekend.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: JennyLeez on October 13, 2023, 10:32:49 AM
Well thats odd.
Have not heard that one before.

I suggest type it up in wordpad or note pad.
Then copy it across. That way if it does it again you will have a copy :)

Cheers
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: southfranklinweat on October 13, 2023, 05:11:57 PM
Thanks Jenny, appreciated.
This issue still resides in this new/latest version.
In the last .pdf I have it displays as per below; (note ^fwiffdi^ is assigned to GFDI).

11) ^fwiffdi^ - Last FFDI
12) ^fwiffdi^ - Last GFDI

When I changed it to ^fwigfdi^ it did not return a value, is this a known issue or is there possibly a way I can amend a file somewhere or would it require author change, I assume he will not be making changes now.

How do I obtain the GFDI value.

Graeme is the any chance you could take a look at it please.
Kindest Regards,
Tony
Title: Re: FWI Calculator Software
Post by: JennyLeez on October 14, 2023, 10:03:19 PM
Good Evening,

Ok yes FFDI and GFDI both return the same reading for the current time/day.
There is not a separate Day reading for ^GFDI^

However both return different readings for the Year High and low
plus for the All time high and low.

I use for the day ^fwiffdi^ for both FFDI & GFDI readings.

For the Year I use:
^stayhighgfdi^  ( Year high)
^stayhighgfdid^ (Date Year High)
^staylowgfdi^    (Year Low)
^staylowgfdid^  (Date Year Low)

and for all time:
^stahgfdi^ (All time High)
^stahgfdid^  (Date All Time High)
^stalgfdi^   (All time Low)
^stalgfdid^  (Date All Time Low)

Have a look at my page.
Right click on it and select view source.
See if that helps at all.

Yell if I can help further :)

Cheers
Jenny

http://wairoa.net/weather/fwi/fire_index.php (http://wairoa.net/weather/fwi/fire_index.php)